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In the highly regulated spaces of most museums today, is it possible to enact a different type of experience, one that is relational, participatory, and even aspirational? Can the public be just as important as the artist and curator in the process of making an aesthetic experience meaningful? Museum director Karen Grøn believes so. And she has made it her mission to make the Trapholt Museum of Art and Design a refreshingly novel site of co-creation, where the visitors and guards are just as instrumental as all the other moving parts. She sees art as a moving rhizome of relations and materialities — an “infrastructure of meanings” — and the museum as offering a frame which opens a piece of art to the question of why. Far from being simplistic, her process is always theoretically informed, whether by enaction itself or Hartmut Rosa’s theory of resonance, and it coaxes the visitor into experience itself, rather than telling them about the experience they ought to have. The result is a space in which the community feels a strong personal tie to the museum, almost as a second home, in which they can “unfold their potential for participating in the world.” And that, if anything, is what Karen aspires to, and why she thinks this enterprise remains as vital and relevant as ever.
Karen Grøn is Museum director and curator of collaborative art projects at the Trapholt Museum of Modern Art, Craft and Design, in Kolding, Denmark. She explores and researches how to make the arts accessible and relevant to multiple citizens through engagement and exchange. Karen has a master’s degree in Aesthetics and Culture from the University of Aarhus and a master’s in public management from the University of Southern Denmark. In 2005-2006, Karen was a guest researcher at the University College London, and then in 2018-2019, at the Tate Museum.
If you’d like to read a bit more about her unique approach, I’d encourage you to read an article she contributed to the Tate Museum website: The Art Museum and Psychological Well-being. You can also hear her speak at the 2020 EU Presidency Museum Conference, on “Museums and Social Responsibility – Values revisited”. Finally, I’d encourage you to have a look at the fourth semester of Core Enaction, where Karen was in dialogue with enactive researcher and artist Shay Welch.
For more information about Trapholt’s current exhibition, “Feel Me,” which Karen mentions in our conversation, you can visit the Trapholt Museum Website.
Karen Grøn
Karen Holdaway Grøn is a museum director and curator of collaborative art projects at Trapholt Museum of Modern Art, Craft and Design, Kolding, Denmark. She researches how to make the arts accessible and relevant to diverse audiences through engagement and exchange. Since 2014, Grøn has led over ten large-scale participatory projects that merge contemporary craft with social engagement, placing citizens at the center of the artistic process. Her work is grounded in the belief that art museums can be inclusive spaces for public dialogue, reflection, and collective creation. Projects like Stitches Beyond Borders (2020), Data Mirror (2022), Things Matter (2023), and Among the Trees (2021–22) showcase her curatorial approach, which challenges traditional museum boundaries and empowers citizens as co-creators. Each project involves collaboration between professional artists—including Iben Høj, Astrid Skibsted, and Randi Samsonsen—and hundreds of participants. Using craft practices like knitting, quilting, and embroidery, participants engage in sensemaking that results in multi-voiced, materially rich installations exhibited at Trapholt and often added to its permanent collection. Grøn’s approach is supported by research with Aarhus University through the CraftWorks project, funded by VELUX FONDEN. This work shows how participatory craft strengthens civic engagement, community bonds, and democratises cultural production. Under her leadership, Trapholt has gained national and international recognition, including the 2021 European Art Museum Award, for pioneering inclusive, co-creative museum practices.
Johanna Magin
Johanna Magin is MLE's Community and Programs Manager. Originally American and based in Paris, Johanna holds a PhD in French literature from Columbia University (New York) and a BA in French from the University of Chicago. Her research has focused on the medico-philosophical practices of several early-modern French authors in an attempt to understand the relationship between mind and body, and more broadly between science and spirituality, in that time period. Always keen to understand mind-body processes from an experiential perspective, she has also practiced Buddhism intensively since 2008 (Zen and Dzogchen), practiced improvisational dance and theatre since 2009, and is currently training to become a Rosen Method bodywork therapist. Before joining MLE, she worked as an academic program manager and adjunct faculty member at Sciences Po in France, where she taught on a wide number of subjects, from philosophy as a way of life to the politics of poetry.